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Tuesday
Apr102007

The New 2008 U.S. News & World Report Law School Rankings: What They Tell the Law School Applicant

The law schools may hate the U.S. News & World Report ranking system, but in my opinion it is genuinely helpful to law school applicants. The new 2008 rankings, just published, reveal valuable pieces of information that law school applicants need to consider.

Here are some insights, school by school, focusing on the top 15 law schools. I'll compare 2008 versus 2007 USN&WR ranking data.

1. Yale: Remains on top. Achieves a stunning new advance to its 25-75 enrolling student LSAT band. Now, it's 170-176. Thus an enrolling student at Yale in the fall of 2006 at the 25th percentile of the class has an LSAT score at the 98.1 percentile of all LSAT takers. Yale really wants it all in terms of talent. LSAT. GPA. Life achievements. Definitely the toughest target in the world of law school admissions.

2. Harvard: Moves up from 3rd place to tied for 2nd with Stanford. Yet loses ground on its 25-75 LSAT band. It's now 169-175, down from 170-176. Slight increase in the admission rate, from 11.5% to 12.6%. To me this suggests that the most competitive students, with offers from both Yale and Harvard, moved more towards Yale, in the class that began in the fall of 2006.

3. Stanford: Tied with Harvard for 2nd. Had a slight increase in the admission rate, from 7.8% to 8.7%.

4. NYU: Overtakes Columbia for 4th place, a seismic event at the top of the law school rankings. Yet Columbia is still stronger in terms of LSAT band and lower admission rate.

5. Columbia: Falls to 5th place. Needs to look hard at every factor of its institution. Should never have been beaten by NYU, but now it has been. Ouch.

6. Chicago: The LSAT "price tag" goes up by one point, to 169 at the 25th percentile, for Chicago. A below-3.5 GPA appears also to now be unwelcomed.

6. Penn: Now ties for 6th place, with Chicago. Another point of LSAT performance is needed for the 25th percentile, which is now a 167.

8. Berkeley: Slips slightly to a 163 at the 25th percentile, down from 164.

8. Michigan: Drawing a slightly higher GPA at the 25th percentile, and a one-point increase in LSAT at the 75th percentile.

10. Duke: Moves into the top 10, from 11th place. Is now demanding a significantly higher GPA, from 3.54 to 3.66, at the 25th percentile.

10. Virginia: Falls from 8th place to tied for 10th. Ouch. Ends up with a slightly lower 25th pecentile GPA, falling from 3.53 to 3.49, while increasing its admission rate significantly, from 20.2% to 25.2%. This is surprising to me, as UVa boasts one of the most loyal law alumni populations in my experience (thus saying something very positive about its institutional culture and organizational competence).

12. Northwestern: Appears slightly easier to earn an offer from, as 25th-percentile GPA and LSAT numbers and the admission rate all softened just slightly.

13. Cornell: Gains another LSAT point, to 166, at its 25th percentile.

14. Georgetown: About the same as last year. A slight increase in the admission rate. Note that Georgetown's data in USN&WR do not include its large night program, which offers an easier path to admission there.

15. UCLA: About the same as last year.

In a future blog, I'll continue to share insights on changes in the USN&WR law school rankings farther down the list, and in the key areas of speciality programs. If you have questions, don't hesitate to contact me at BradDobeck@aol.com. Please see my website at www.PrelawAdvisor.com for more information about how to deal with the challenges of elite law school admission.

Friday
Mar302007

Interested in Practicing Law in New York State?

Pay attention to the New York bar passage rates in the fascinating new 2008 US News & World Report ranking system. If you rank the law schools that send the largest percentage of each class to the New York bar, which currently has a 74% pass rate, here's how the law schools line up:

1. University of Michigan....96.5% of its most recent graduates who took the New York State bar exam passed it.

1. University of Virginia (tied)....96.5%.

2. University of Pennsylvania Law School....95.5%.

3. Harvard....95.3%.

4. Cornell....94.3%.

5. Yale....94.2%.

6. Duke....94%.

7. NYU....93.4%.

8. Georgetown....92.5%.

9. Columbia....90.6%.

10. St. John's University....88.8%.

11. George Washington....87.5%.

12. Fordham....87%.

13. Cardozo....84.4%.

14. Brooklyn Law School....84%.

15. Albany Law School....77.9%.

16. University at Buffalo-SUNY....77.1%.

The average pass rate for the New York State bar is 74%. The following schools are below this average.

17. New York Law School....73.1%.

18. Pace....71.7%.

19. Hofstra....69.9%.

20. Syracuse....68.7%.

21. Howard....68.3%.

22. Touro....65.9%.

23. CUNY-Queens....61.5%.

I think that these bar passage rates are valuable measures of institutional competence in preparing law students for the rigors of one of America's toughest and most desired bar exam admission results. While elite law schools generally disdain any explicit effort to prepare their students for a bar exam, they all want their graduates to have extremely high bar passage rates. You have every right to consider a school's bar passage rate in the jurisdiction of your interest, as you think about where you want to study law.

The University of Michigan Law School and the University of Virginia School of Law deserve great credit for being at the top of this list. Some schools here, like Columbia, Fordham and Cardozo, should be doing better.

For information on how I can assist you in competing for a top law school, please visit PrelawAdvisor.com

Wednesday
Dec062006

Advice for College Career Center Professionals about the Law School Admission Process

Tips for Advising College Students and Recent Grads about Law School

Brad Dobeck, JD, President, PrelawAdvisor.com

College career center professionals should consider these answers to questions commonly asked by current college undergraduates or recent grads, when they knock on your door seeking advice about the challenges of the law school admission process. Law school admission rates, particularly at the elite level, are quite low. It takes a carefully constructed package of achievements to interest tough-minded law school admissions decision makers. This information can help you provide positive guidance to college students and graduates.

When should I start law school?

The commonly-held view of many college juniors and seniors is that one should begin law school immediately after college. If you graduate in May, begin the following September.

As a prelaw advisor and advocate to many in the law school admission process, I strongly dispute this view. Many brand-new college graduates should not go immediately to law school. Let me tell you why.

First, prelaw students must understand that they need to develop a strategy not only for law school admission, but one that prepares them for:

  • Success in law school, particularly during the challenging first year.
  • Success at the right law school, one located in a setting appropriate for the student's future plans, and a law school with a track record and an alumni network that will meet the student's future objectives.
  • Success in professional job hunting, which is greatly affected by prior law-related work experience, choice of law school, and performance in law school (especially first-year performance).
  • Success in one’s future professional career, which ideally is founded on an outstanding performance in the law school best suited to the student's objectives.

A student strategy that focuses on immediate admission alone creates significant risks for the student's future professional plans.

Remember, only about one third of American law students now go to law school directly out of college, and I believe that this number will continue to fall. It is now quite common for college graduates to have two to five years of work experience before starting law school.

Should I take off time before law school?

That kind of thinking has it exactly backward. You've been "taking time off" from the real world to go to college instead of starting work right after high school. Propose instead that the student or grad go back to the world of work after college, before "taking time off" in the future to invest it in law school.

If I don't go to law school right after college, what should I do?

Law-related work; LSAT study and practice tests; law-related reading; visits to law schools, law libraries and law school bookstores; and preparing your law school applications—in short a comprehensive effort in all these areas, activities you probably don't have enough time for as a full-time undergraduate.

Do I really need law-related work before law school?

Yes. Life experience after college and law-related work help you develop an informed basis for the study of the law. You want to enter law school with a personal understanding of the nature of legal work, and the world of lawyers and law firms. You need an appreciation for the standards and pressures in legal work. Post-college life experience and law-related work experience will reveal to you whether or not law school and the legal profession are right for you. You want to make that decision before you enter law school, not after.

What exactly is law-related work?

Working as a paralegal or legal assistant in a law firm, legal department or with a lawyer in solo practice. Working with lawyers in advocacy or public interest organizations. Working on a political campaign. Such work experiences might come in the form of externships, part- or full-time jobs, internships, or through volunteering time. Seek work experiences that have law-related content and that expose you to lawyers and their activities.

How do I deal with the LSAT?

The LSAT is your adversary. Deal with it accordingly. This test disappoints, in varying degrees, 95% of LSAT test-takers, because everyone wants a score in the top five percent. Law schools, in effect, use the LSAT like a form of IQ test. The major law schools fiercely compete against each other by way of the publicly-available LSAT results of each enrolling law school class. A high LSAT score does not guarantee your admission, but a low score can make it very, very difficult to win admission.

The most important rules to remember in dealing with the LSAT are as follows:

  • Don't take the official LSAT test until you are consistently scoring in practice the score you need for the school you want.
  • Students who practice the test frequently generally get a much better official test result.
  • Plan to take the official test only one time. Ideally, you want to show only one official, high, result.

If you wisely choose to work before going to law school, you don't need to do anything with the LSAT while you are in college. LSAT preparation should become one of your most important post-college tasks. Start this process by taking the free diagnostic LSAT test offered by both the Kaplan and Princeton Review organizations. (There are other, excellent, less well-known LSAT tutoring organizations as well.) Pick the program most appealing and affordable to you and work hard in it. Then when you finish, purchase a series of old, official LSAT tests and answers. Take many practice tests. Learn from every mistake. When you are consistently achieving the score you need for the school you want, then take the June or October test one year before the year you will start law school.

What do you mean by law-related reading?

Many prelaw students operate under the assumption that there really is nothing that they need to study in particular prior to starting law school. The reality is that there is a great deal one can read and study profitably in advance of law school. Remember, your goal is not just law school admission, but achievement of academic success while in the right law school for you, through a plan of self-development that includes reading books and materials that you will never have time for once you are actually in law school.

Start by looking at the Internet Legal Resources Guide at www.ilrg.com. Next, check the bibliography in the ABA-LSAC Official Guide to ABA-Approved Law Schools at www.lsac.org. How many of these books have you read? You could spend years profitably reading from this list. Pick a book of interest to you and get started.

Third, visit a good law bookstore, such as one associated with a top law school. Note that in examining the materials there for first-year students, you see two major categories of materials-official texts and handouts from law school professors for use in first-year classes, and a vast and varied assortment of unofficial materials that are commercial study aids for law students. My recommendation is that you start learning about the law now by purchasing some of the commercial study aids, one for each first-year course, and master them now before law school starts. One example would be the "Nutshell" series (such as "Contract Law in a Nutshell"). Such materials can give you a better perspective on the field of law you will shortly be studying.

You might also consider contacting the BAR-BRI organization, which offers post-law school bar exam preparation. BAR-BRI prepares and sells useful outlines on all areas of the law that are covered by each state's bar exam. These outlines, typically not used by law students until after they finish law school and are in a six-week cram study period for the bar, are actually quite useful as legal introductions for the pre-law student.

Understand that many law school professors hold such commercial prep materials in low regard. However, I am not proposing that you use such materials for legal research, but only as broad, general and useful introductory materials, read before law school starts, to give you a more informed basis on which to build your learning in law school.

Do I need to go visit a law school I'm interested in?

Absolutely. You wouldn't consider a car purchase, an apartment rental, house purchase, marriage or other significant decision without careful evaluation. The same applies to law school. Show up, walk around, and talk to students. Begin to get a feel for how happy they are, and whether they would choose to attend if they had the decision to make all over again. Then visit the Admissions Office. Tell them of your interest. Be polite and respectful. Take the official tour. Arrange to sit in a number of classes.

Ask and get answers to your questions, including the following tough ones that law schools aren't eager to discuss. Remember, be polite and friendly.

  • Tell me the type of student your law school is seeking from the current marketplace of students.
  • At what point in terms of GPA and LSAT is a graduate of my school likely to be offered admission to your law school?
  • What is the grading philosophy of your law school, particularly during the first year? A "B" mean? "C" mean? Something else?
  • How do students earn an invitation to your law school's most respected law review?
  • What is the drop-out rate at your law school during the first year? Second and third years?
  • Are financial aid awards "front-loaded" for 1L's? In other words, are 2Ls and 3Ls likely to receive less in financial aid? And is financial aid increased each year for inflation and higher costs generally?
  • What is your law school's bar exam passage rate record?
  • Does your law school offer purely merit-based scholarships? If so, how many? For what percentage of total costs? At what GPA/LSAT level are they offered?
  • What percentage of the most recent graduating class is employed currently in law-related positions?
  • What are the most prestigious clerkships offered to your recent graduates?
  • Which schools does your law school regard as its direct competitors?
  • What is the geographic distribution pattern of your law school's alumni?
  • What is the loan default rate of graduates from your law school?

Answers to these questions will greatly assist you in making the decision of whether to invest your time, money and reputation with a particular law school.

How do I persuade the admissions decision makers in my application?

The goal in your personal statement is an interesting story that creates an immediate positive mental image of you. Don't waste the opportunity of the personal statement to attempt to explain away any negative factors. Don’t write a “confessional,” expecting law school “justice.” Plan to test your personal statement on friends, family and your prelaw advisor. Winning formulas are as varied as each individual. Obviously, grammar and spelling must be impeccable. Do not follow the well-worn path of "Why I Want to Go to Law School." Remember that law school admissions reviewers have read literally thousands of such personal statements.

Purchase and read The Elements of Style, by Strunk and White, if you don't already have a copy. This slim volume is the best compilation on effective writing that I've ever seen. Employ in particular the concept of omitting needless words. You want your writing to be concise, vivid and effective, with every word contributing to the result you desire.

Follow the directions carefully that each school provides. Aim for the earliest point in the admissions cycle. The optimal timeframe typically for application submission is between Halloween and Thanksgiving (sometimes even earlier). Understand each school's cycle. Seek to be there early in line for admission consideration.

Tell your top school that it is your first choice and that you will definitely attend if offered admission (if true). You cannot ethically make this commitment to any other school.

Be scrupulously honest in all your application work. Your future reputation as a lawyer includes what you've said in your law school applications. If you have any doubts on this issue, meet with your prelaw advisor.

Consider the use of brief addendums to provide any additional information necessary to persuade the admissions committee. Consult with your prelaw advisor before employing this approach, as it is sometimes overused.

Attorney Brad Dobeck, formerly Georgetown University’s prelaw advisor, is president of PrelawAdvisor.com, where he works as a consultant to law school applicants nationally. He has J.D., M.S.F.S, and LL.M degrees from Georgetown, and has worked in law firm and corporate legal department practice.

Thursday
Nov162006

Can Senior Citizens Go to Law School?

The short answer is, of course they can. If you have been thinking about going to law school as a mature adult, it is possible for law school doors to open for you. As baby boomers and older adults reinvent themselves in their senior years, some will want to take the journey towards becoming a lawyer. Others will do it to seek the intellectual adventure of learning about the law. There are many opportunities to do so. America currently has 193 American Bar Association-approved law schools, offering a Juris Doctor (J.D.) course of study (the basic law degree). Law school typically takes three years to complete, going full-time, or four years (or more) in a part-time program. Upon completion, law school graduates typically take a commercial prep course designed to assist them in passing the bar exam of their state. The bar exam, a multiple-day affair, requires an extensive application and a background and character investigation. Bar passage rates vary from about 61% (California) to 91% (Minnesota).

Am I too old to go? Law schools do not place a limit on the age of their students. In fact, they welcome the seasoning effect of some mature adults as students, knowing that they offer a perspective based on life and work experience that a 26-year-old student (about the average age of a current full-time law student) simply cannot yet provide. Your life and previous work experience may well be a very useful foundation for the systematic study of the law. Life experience can be like “money in the bank” for the process of earning a law degree.

What types of law schools are there? Think of law schools as essentially in three categories: national, regional and local. Within each category you will see both public and private law schools. National law schools, like Harvard, Berkeley and Georgetown, have the toughest admission standards. Such prestigious law schools attract top students and elite law-related employers from all over the US. Regional law schools, often public, are best known in their own state, and have a more regional emphasis and impact. They can be very highly regarded, and tough to get into. Examples: University of Maryland, University of Arizona, and the University of Kansas. Local law schools, usually lower in the law school hierarchy, have the easiest admission standards but offer the least access to top employers. But they can be a perfectly fine choice for a senior interested in exploring the law and perhaps developing a future local law practice in one’s current community. Examples: University of Baltimore, Golden Gate University, and Florida Coastal School of Law. Don’t be surprised if every law school you explore describes itself as a “national” law school. Take law school marketing materials with a grain of salt.

What is law school really like? In a couple of sentences, law school is the study of disputes. What happens when things go wrong in complex relationships? How is the law structured to resolve problems? Where is new law needed? You should feel free to visit any law school of interest to you. Expect to see many, many students far younger than you, but look for those in your age bracket as well. Stop in to the admissions office. Introduce yourself. Pick up materials. Go on a tour. Talk to students. Get permission to sit in several classes. Say hello to law school professors (who may look remarkably young to you!). Seek to meet older students. Ask about their experience. Visit multiple law schools, so that you can begin to see the differences in law school style and culture.

What skills will I need to start law school? Love of reading, attention to detail, familiarity with the use of a laptop computer, persistence, patience, a desire to debate issues, an eagerness to speak in public, and a willingness to consider both sides of many arguments. You will journey both backwards in time to see historic cases in the law, and you will visit the very edge of contemporary legal issues, as the law grapples with new controversies and novel problems. You will begin to see the vast statutory and judge-made structure of the law. You will likely encounter exceptionally talented law school professors, but also those who will drive you crazy. Teaching talent in law school varies tremendously.

How do I apply? First, understand that you do not need a formal relationship with a law school to begin your learning about the law. You can—and should—engage in a great deal of reading and personal learning before you start the application process. Begin with the free resources of the Law School Admission Council, at www.lsac.org. But understand that LSAC represents first the interests of law schools. It offers no assistance, for example, on the issue of law school ranking. You need to go to US News & World Report at www.usnews.com to see its enormously influential law school ranking information. Explore the bibliography offered by LSAC at www.lsac.org/pdfs/2006-2007/ResourcesforthePrelawCandidateJuly06.pdf. You could spend years profitably reading from it before law school. My favorite suggested prelaw reading list for incoming law students is found at Regent University’s School of Law at www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/admissions/booklist.cfm.

What about the LSAT? The Law School Admission Test is required by all ABA-approved law schools. It is a tough, demanding test of one’s reading comprehension and analytical abilities. For applicants who are mature adults, far from their college years, law schools will consider very carefully your LSAT result. It is heavily weighted in the admissions process. Law schools may deny it, but the LSAT in effect is the “IQ test” for law school. But the good news is that with thoughtful, effective and perhaps a long period of preparation using practice tests, the LSAT can be mastered. Do not take the real LSAT until you are repeatedly scoring in practice tests at least in the LSAT range associated with the students enrolling at your target law school. Both LSAC and US News offer this information.

What about non-ABA-approved law schools? Some states, like California, Massachusetts, and a number of southern states have law schools outside the system created by LSAC and the American Bar Association. They can offer a much lower barrier to entry, such as no required LSAT score in some cases, but legal employers may place less confidence in their graduates. These schools often enable their graduates to sit for the bar exam in only their own state, so factor that into your planning. But to their credit, they may offer innovations resisted by ABA-approved law schools, such as distance learning, curricular distinctives, and greater affordability. Some explicitly seek out mature students. They are worth exploring.

Start with a light course load. Don’t be reluctant to seek out a part-time JD course of study. You’ll see older students in part-time, evening programs. Begin with a small number of courses, so that you can adjust to the expectations of law school professors, without suffering an overload. Don’t let law school unbalance your life. Seek to grow towards a worthy academic or professional goal in a way that allows you to enjoy your senior years. You don’t need to be wrapped up in a “paper chase”—the drive towards credentialing that motivates younger law students. Use the considerable advantages of your life experience. Your journey to a law degree begins with sound, informed planning.

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Brad Dobeck is an attorney and president of PrelawAdvisor.com.

Wednesday
Nov152006

How effective are law schools in attracting legal employers?

You may not be thinking of this now, as a law school applicant, but it is extremely important to think about how effective your desired law school is in attracting the law-related employers you will be interested in working for, after your second year of law school, and on into your future.

Use the excellent website of the National Association for Law Placement, www.nalpdirectory.com, a truly outstanding service to applicants and students, to see which employers are involved in your target law school’s on-campus recruiting program. Are there many employers? Are they from locations of interest to you? Are you seeing depth and breadth to the list of such employers? Are you seeing more than just law firms? Are the most respected law firms in the cities and states of interest to you recruiting at your target schools?

Which schools attract the most employers to on-campus interviewing? Consider this list, from current NALP data. In a sense, it represents a logical way to rank law schools:

Georgetown…..835 employers

Harvard…..775 employers

Virginia…..752 employers

Michigan…..665 employers

Duke…..653 employers

NYU…..652 employers

Columbia…..592 employers

Berkeley…..564 employers

Stanford…..559 employers

Penn…..530 employers

George Washington…..522 employers

Northwestern…..495 employers

Chicago…..491 employers

Yale…..450 employers

Texas…..432 employers

Vanderbilt…..430 employers

UCLA…..372 employers

Cornell…..360 employers

USC…..319 employers

Emory…..290 employers

Boston College…..284 employers

North Carolina…..281 employers

Boston U…..269 employers

Notre Dame…..242 employers

William & Mary…..208 employers

Washington & Lee…..202 employers

Wash. U. (St. Louis)…..178 employers

Illinois…..178 employers

U. of Iowa…..169 employers

Minnesota…..117 employers

U. of Washington…..94 employers

To discuss the impact of these factors on your planning for law school, send an e-mail to me at BradDobeck@aol.com. For more information about my work for law school applicants, please see my website PrelawAdvisor.com.

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